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192 Survey Training Battery, School of Artillery, Larkhill

By Admin-GF

Flash spotting was developed in WWI under the static conditions of the fronts in France. It was much improved in WWII to cope with fast moving battle conditions. Many of our Instructors had had battle experience in the campaigns in Europe, the desert and Burma. Often they were in the thick of things for by the very nature of the task observers had to be up with the infantry and get forward positions on high ground or in exposed positions with a good view of the opponent’s front. Much later I realized how hazardous a surveyor’s and observers task could have been. But those thoughts do not pass through the mind of 19 year olds.

There other tasks to which flash spotting could be put such as calibration of the guns by air burst ranging out on the Plain which again was great fun, or by fall of shot into the sea which we did later in our service. In calibration the process is reversed for then what is established is where the shot actually went as compared to where it was expected to go, and the laying of the individual gun be adjusted accordingly.

Map Reading

Map reading was another art in which we were expected to excel. I had always had an interest in maps and I thoroughly enjoyed our exercises. For it involved all day trips, with an army packed lunch, haversack rations, in the back of a 3 ton Bedford QL truck. We traveled in and around all the delightful small villages of the Wyle Valley – Codford St Mary and Steeple Langford come to mind – out on the Plain or up on the high Downs with superb views over the beautiful counties of Wiltshire, Hampshire, Berkshire and into Dorset.

Armed with a one inch to the mile Ordnance Survey Map, compass and binoculars on dismounting we were within moments expected to find our location, calculate its co-ordinates and take bearings to certain points. This usually was no problem for it seemed wherever one went the 400’ high spire of Salisbury Cathedral could soon be espied on one horizon or the other. Each trip too was enlivened by stopping at some cafe or other for ‘char and wads’.

Surveyor Testing & Assignment

All this came to an end in December when 98 Squad took its Trade Test and happily to relate I  and those others I have already named ‘Passed Out’, became Surveyors RA, A3. This entitled us to wear on the right sleeves of our uniforms below the Royal Artillery flash an “S” surrounded by laurel leaves. For these we had worked hard and of which we were very proud. It also increased our pay by a material amount.

In late December 1949 and being trained the time came for us to leave Larkhill for our postings to a service unit. Of the two survey regiments the 19th was in Germany and the 52nd in the Middle East so we anticipated going to one of these. However we were destined for neither and our posting was to be to Hong Kong. A posting I certainly looked forward to for as a boy I had always been aware of it as our local vicar had been headmaster of a school there and I had heard many a tale. A new unit 15 Independent Observation Battery RA was to be formed and we were to be part of it.

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  1. James (Steve) Gorman says

    September 12, 2015 at 7:16 am

    Thanks for your National Service Memoirs. They bring back so many memories of the past that I feel compelled to comment on the contents, which are excellent!
    The reason for this is that I happen to have been to the same places at the same time as yourself. The only difference is probably that I did Sound Ranging instead of one of the other choices.
    Otherwise,the dates certainly match. Notwithstanding my 85 year old memory I can still remember that my first posting, with other newly qualified Surveyors, was Luneburg, Germany where we specialised in Sound Ranging. From Luneburg a group of us were posted to Woolwich Depot prior to the Hong Kong posting,(Lo Wu then Stanley Barracks). This was followed by transport to Korea via Japan with our Survey, Sound Ranging, Radar and other equipment. To begin with we dug trenches and had tent tops above, but for obvious reasons these were later removed and replaced by roof timbers from destroyed dwellings.
    I’m given to understand that together with divisional artillery and air strikes we did a good job!
    Incidentally the Wally Langford you mention was one of my friends.
    Regards,
    James Stephen Gorman ( ex Gunner/Surveyor RA )

    Names are now also somewhat of a problem but I still remember Wally Langford who I was friendly with.

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Book Outline

  • Foreword
  • Part One
    • Chapter 1 – Preamble
    • Chapter 2 – 67 Training Regiment Royal Artillery Oswestry
    • Chapter 3 – 192 Survey Training Battery Royal Artillery Larkhill
    • Chapter 4 – Royal Artillery Depot Woolwich – Begin
    • Chapter 5 – MV Devonshire – A Slow Boat to China
  • Part Two
    • Chapter 6 – Hong Kong and the New Territories 1950
    • Chapter 7 – Lo Wu, New Territories
    • Chapter 8 – Ping Shan, New Territories
    • Chapter 9 – Stanley Barracks, Hong Kong Island
    • Chapter 10 – Korea, An Epitaph
  • Part Three
    • Chapter 11 – MV Dunera, A Happy Return
    • Chapter 12 – Royal Artillery Depot Woolwich – End
    • Chapter 13 – 880 Forward Observation Battery, RA (Airborne) TA
    • Chapter 14 – A Reckoning
  • Appendix

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  • Foreword – National Service Memoir
  • Preamble – National Service a Memoir
  • 67 Training Regiment Royal Artillery Oswestry
  • 192 Survey Training Battery, School of Artillery, Larkhill
  • The Royal Artillery Depot Woolwich – Begin
  • HMT Devonshire, A Slow Boat to China
  • Hong Kong and the New Territories
  • Lo Wu, New Territories
  • Ping Shan, New Territorities
  • Stanley Barracks Hong Kong Island
  • Korea, An Epitaph
  • HMT Dunera, Hong Kong to Southampton
  • The Royal Artillery Depot Woolwich – End
  • 880 Forward Observation Battery, RA, Airborne Territorial Army
  • National Service – My Reckoning
  • National Service, Notes and Comment
  • Welcome to Gunner Flann – A National Service Memoir
  • How to Write a Memoir: Creative Devices
  • The Royal Artillery Band Woolwich – Moving
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